Subj:	TRAVELLER digest 314
Date:	95-06-11 21:54:43 EDT
From:	traveller@mpgn.com
To:	traveller@mpgn.com

From:	traveller@mpgn.com
Sender:	traveller@mpgn.com
Reply-to:	traveller@mpgn.com
To:	traveller@mpgn.com (Multiple recipients of list)
			    TRAVELLER Digest 314

Topics covered in this issue include:

  1) TRAVELLER AUCTION-FINAL HEAT
	by Profwelks@aol.com
  2) Solomani Marathon-Class Fleet Courier, TNE style
	by Christopher_Griffen@DMCWAVE.COM (Christopher Griffen)
  3) TRAVELLER AUCTION-last minute up
	by Profwelks@aol.com
  4) Traveller Auction Results
	by Profwelks@aol.com
  5) Vampire Fleets
	by Bri <bri@teleport.com>
  6) Robot Appendage Design Rules
	by DBullock@cris.com (Dave Bullock)
  7) alien critters
	by jmg141@email.psu.edu (john gardner)
  8) Re: Old Subsector mapping softwa
	by CyHiggin@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 21:38:46 -0400
From: Profwelks@aol.com
To: TRAVELLER@MPGN.COM
Subject: TRAVELLER AUCTION-FINAL HEAT
Message-ID: <950610213841_92475063@aol.com>

HERE ARE CURRENT BIDS: if new bids come in I will post an update around 11
pm. Consider every bid listed going once.  First named bidder in a
competition has the priority, as their bid came in first.

The whole inventory of 38 booklets may be purchased for: 1 bid
@$350 fkiesche3@
Rules ($5 minimum bid)	
 1-Characters and Combat  NB	
 2-Starships   1 bid @$5 tab@	
 3-Worlds and Adventures  NB	
 4-Mercenary (1 bid @$6 Christopher_Griffen@)	
 5-High Guard (1 1979 ed., 1 1980 ed.)  1 bid @$10 for 79 ed. ppugliese@	
     1 bid @$5 for 80 ed. tab@	
Supplements: ($5 min bid) 	
  1-1001 Characters NB	
  2-Animal Encounters 1 bid@$4 postD%host@	
  3-The Spinward Marches 1 bid @$9 gxh8@@	
  4-Citizens of the Imperium NB	
  5-Lightning Class Cruisers (1 bid @$9 pd82495@)
  6-76 Patrons 1 bid @$7 gxh8@ 	
  7-Traders & Gunboats (1 bid @$8 jbudovec@)
  8-Library Data (A-M) 1 bid @$6 Christopher_Griffen@	
Adventures: ($5 min bid)	
  1-The Kinunir 1 bid @$5 74651.4575@	
  2-Research Station Gamma 1 bid @$5 74651.4575@
  3-Twilight's Peak 1 bid@$8	Christopher_Griffen@
  4-Leviathan NB 1 bid @$7 JFB94@	
  5-Trillion Credit Squadron 1 bid@$16 JFB94@
  Double Adventure 4-Marooned/Marooned Alone NB	
Other:	
  Azhanti High Lighting (combat rules) 1 bid@$6 A.S.lilly@
Striker Basic Rules, Advanced Rules, & Equipment 1 bid @$20 mstiavel@
  Snapshot Rules 1 bid @$6 A.S.lilly@
  Journal of the Travellers' Aid Society-all are near mint	
     Numbers 1  (1 bid@$35)ecy@
      3 (1 bid@$40) ransom22@
      5 (1 bid@$40) ransom22@	
      8 (1 bid@$8) ted7@
      9 (2 bids@$4) Christopher_Griffen@/kthoms@
      10 (2 bids@$4) Christopher_Griffen@/kthoma@
      11 (1 bid @$4)	Christopher_Griffen@
Paranoia Press: ($5 min bid each) 	
  SORAG  1 bid @$10 E.D.Quibell@
  Scouts & Assassins  1 bid @$10 jbudovec@
  Merchants & Merchandise 1 bid@$12 jbudovecl@ 
FASA:	
  Action Aboard (2 copies) 2 bids@$5	A.S.lilly@/gem188@
       & 1 bid@$6 E.D.Quibell@
  Uragyad'n of the Seven Pillars 1 bid@6 E.D.Quibell@

Bids look like thay fetch a total of $321. 

Thanks,	

Mike:) Profwelks@aol.com


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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 19:59:25 -0700
From: Christopher_Griffen@DMCWAVE.COM (Christopher Griffen)
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Solomani Marathon-Class Fleet Courier, TNE style
Message-ID: <fda5c7e0@MailXFER.DMCWAVE.COM>

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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 23:22:37 -0400
From: Profwelks@aol.com
To: ransom22@delphi.com, xboat@MPGN.COM, traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: TRAVELLER AUCTION-last minute up
Message-ID: <950610232235_92519500@aol.com>

HERE ARE CURRENT BIDS: Here is the 11pm post. I will accept bids as valid up
to midnight tonight. I will review everything after the dust has settled and
annouce the auction results tomorrow. Winners will be asked to confirm with
email. So far, the group bid is outbidding the sum of individual bids.

The whole inventory of 38 booklets may be purchased for: 1 bid
@$350 fkiesche3@ going one, going twice...
Rules ($5 minimum bid)	
 1-Characters and Combat  NB	
 2-Starships   1 bid @$5 tab@ going one, going twice...
 3-Worlds and Adventures  NB	
 4-Mercenary (1 bid @$6 Christopher_Griffen@)	going one, going twice...
 5-High Guard (1 1979 ed., 1 1980 ed.)  1 bid @$10 for 79 ed. ppugliese@	
     1 bid @$5 for 80 ed. tab@ both going one, going twice...
Supplements: ($5 min bid) 	
  1-1001 Characters NB	
  2-Animal Encounters 1 bid@$4 postD%host@	going one, going twice...
  3-The Spinward Marches 1 bid @$9 gxh8@@ going one, going twice...
  4-Citizens of the Imperium NB	
  5-Lightning Class Cruisers (1 bid @$9 pd82495@) going one, going twice...
  6-76 Patrons 1 bid @$7 gxh8@ going one, going twice...
  7-Traders & Gunboats (1 bid @$9 Christopher_Griffen@) going once...
  8-Library Data (A-M) 1 bid @$6 Christopher_Griffen@ going one, going
twice...
Adventures: ($5 min bid)	
  1-The Kinunir 1 bid @$7 mrkosmos@ going once...	
  2-Research Station Gamma 1 bid @$5 74651.4575@ going one, going twice...
  3-Twilight's Peak 1 bid@$8	Christopher_Griffen@
  4-Leviathan NB 1 bid @$7 JFB94@ going one, going twice...
  5-Trillion Credit Squadron 1 bid@$16 JFB94@ going one, going twice...
  Double Adventure 4-Marooned/Marooned Alone NB	
Other:	
  Azhanti High Lighting (combat rules) 1 bid@$6 A.S.lilly@ going one, going
twice...
Striker Basic Rules, Advanced Rules, & Equipment 1 bid @$20 mstiavel@
going one, going twice...
  Snapshot Rules 1 bid @$6 A.S.lilly@ going one, going twice...
  Journal of the Travellers' Aid Society-all are near mint	
     Numbers 1  (1 bid@$35)ecy@ going one, going twice...
      3 (1 bid@$40) ransom22@ going one, going twice...
      5 (1 bid@$40) ransom22@ going one, going twice...
      8 (1 bid@$8) ted7@ going one, going twice...
      9 (2 bids@$4) Christopher_Griffen@/kthoms@ going one, going twice...
      10 (2 bids@$4) Christopher_Griffen@/kthoma@ going one, going twice...
      11 (1 bid @$4)	Christopher_Griffen@ going one, going twice...
Paranoia Press: ($5 min bid each) 	
  SORAG  1 bid @$10 E.D.Quibell@ going one, going twice...
  Scouts & Assassins  1 bid @$10 jbudovec@ going one, going twice...
  Merchants & Merchandise 1 bid@$12 jbudovecl@ going one, going twice...
FASA:	
  Action Aboard (2 copies) 2 bids@$5	A.S.lilly@/gem188@ going one, going
twice...
       & 1 bid@$6 E.D.Quibell@ going one, going twice...
  Uragyad'n of the Seven Pillars 1 bid@6 E.D.Quibell@ going one, going
twice...

Bids look like thay fetch a total of $324.

Thanks,	

Mike:) Profwelks@aol.com


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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 00:16:07 -0400
From: Profwelks@aol.com
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Cc: xboat@MPGN.COM, ransom22@delphi.com
Subject: Traveller Auction Results
Message-ID: <950611001605_92541352@aol.com>

The group bid was a winner, outbidding the sum of the individual bids by $25.
Thus, the traveller collection goes to fkiesche@...pending confirmation of
the bid of $350.00.  Thanks for pursuing the class Traveller stuff with
competitive vigor:)

Mike

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Date: Sat, 10 Jun 1995 22:26:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bri <bri@teleport.com>
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Vampire Fleets
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.950610222444.12346A-100000@kelly.teleport.com>

 Yes, that is(so far) the BEST traveller book out there(expect the main 
book of cours)
 It is nice, because this is the first book that has 'additude'. And not 
just technicial stuff.(some others had it. but not in any measurable 
quantity)
 excellent job.
 I comment all who worked on it.

bri


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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 03:41:13 -0400
From: DBullock@cris.com (Dave Bullock)
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Robot Appendage Design Rules
Message-ID: <199506110741.DAA13593@deathstar.cris.com>

>From: "David A. Nelson" <34TYHPE@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
>Subject: Vampire Ships and Robots
>Some questions regarding the robot design system in VAMPIRE SHIPS:
>  1.) How does one figure out what the volume of a robot's arm should be?

Reference:  BOOK 8:  ROBOTS
            Original Traveller Rules - (c) 1986

I couldn't find a specific reference here - however the chassis
configuration table on page 27 is what I would use as a guide.

Configuration           Weight Mod      Price Mod       Armor
-------------------------------------------------------------
Open Frame              0.5             0.5             None
Box/Wedge               -               -               Mesh
Cylinder/Cone           -               1.1             Mesh
Sphere                  0.8             1.5             Mesh
Dome/Disk               0.9             1.2             Mesh
Contoured               1.2             2.0             Mesh
Psuedo-Biological       1.5             8.0             Jack

>  2.) Why are there no rules for creating human-looking robots such as the
>  one featured in the adventures in Traveller Digest? (And, presumably, the
>  ones Strephon used as stand-ins).

These rules are also in Book 8...  I would be more than happy to repost them
here however they are copyright material even though they are two
generations old (Original Traveller).  I'ld like to know GDW's view on
this...  Personally I doubt they're gonna lose any sales over me posting it
but not my place to say :)

>  3.) Could we see a detailed example of the construction of one of the
'bots
>  in the back of the book? Examples can help illustrate things which rules
are
>  sometimes unclear on.

We need more of this IN GENERAL - the computer rules current as of
MegaTraveller for starship design have thrown me completely for a loop...
I'ld love to see how people figure out control panels etc






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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 08:24:44 -0400
From: jmg141@email.psu.edu (john gardner)
To: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: alien critters
Message-ID: <199506111245.IAA05430@genesis.ait.psu.edu>

for various reasons, i am in need of new and previously unseen alien races
(major races of course) for my campaign.  if anybody has developed any, or
has any suggestions please let me know.

john

"Any society which is willing to surrender liberty for security . . . shall
have neither."
                                                           - Benjamin
Franklin.
"A simple man believes anything, but a prudent man gives thought to his
steps."
                                                           - Proverbs 14:15
"No matter where you go, there you are . . ."
                                                           - Albert Eienstien
"A chicken is nothing but an egg's way of producing more eggs"
                                                           - unknown



  


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Date: Sun, 11 Jun 1995 16:51:26 -0400
From: CyHiggin@aol.com
To: JOHNSON@tonic.pharm.arizona.edu
Cc: traveller@MPGN.COM
Subject: Re: Old Subsector mapping softwa
Message-ID: <950611164940_68605971@aol.com>

re...

I don't know where the official archives are, but I have a COMPLETE copy of
the archived version.   Where would you like me to send it?

I also have Mark Cook's X subsector viewer, whose code I hacked up to make my
DOS subsector viewer (Unfortunately, I lost the
source for the DOS version).  I also have a preliminary version of
an OS/2 subsector viewer, based on Mark's X viewer.   I'm also
considering tackling an X-based sector viewer, and a generic
"everything within n parsecs" viewer, for those of you that don't
use the Imperial  sector grid system for marking out space...

                              -- Cynthia

P.S. To whomever was surveying the TML about our computers,
well, Steve is using the OS/2 box, and I recently started using
LINUX.  I have discovered THE cure for OS/2 fanaticism: Load
Linux!  Now, what's the cure for Linux fanaticism?  (Anyone 
who suggests Windows 95 will be shot...)


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